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		<title>Comment on The Loss of Milton&#8217;s Paradise by micele</title>
		<link>http://rkdrury.english-nku.org/ENG685/archives/92#comment-258</link>
		<dc:creator>micele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 22:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I definitely find Paradise Lost to be a religious work.  I do think Milton had some religious messages he wanted to express.  However, I do see you connection between Milton's life and this epic.  Like so many writers, Milton uses life experiences in his writing.  

The religious issues at that time is hard to fathom.  This epic does a great job at bringing issues to the front.  

The concept of freewill in this epic brings so much to discussion, like many concepts in this epic.  I also found Sin and Death to be interesting characters, especially the roles they play in the epic and still in life.  

Overall, it is interesting to see how much of Milton's life was incorporated into Paradise Lost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely find Paradise Lost to be a religious work.  I do think Milton had some religious messages he wanted to express.  However, I do see you connection between Milton&#8217;s life and this epic.  Like so many writers, Milton uses life experiences in his writing.  </p>
<p>The religious issues at that time is hard to fathom.  This epic does a great job at bringing issues to the front.  </p>
<p>The concept of freewill in this epic brings so much to discussion, like many concepts in this epic.  I also found Sin and Death to be interesting characters, especially the roles they play in the epic and still in life.  </p>
<p>Overall, it is interesting to see how much of Milton&#8217;s life was incorporated into Paradise Lost.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Milton&#8217;s Conception of Satan by micele</title>
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		<dc:creator>micele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Satan's character is easy to sympathize with, especially when he sees paradise for the first time and feels so sad.  His character also gives the reader the "fighter" character, the one who goes against the leader (God), which shows the reader that one must stop to question.  

I think your last paragraph is interesting, especially how Milton promotes humans not being swayed, but answer to their conscience.  Moreso than not, must of the last paragraph describes Satan's character (at least to me).    

The whole correuption topic is a concept that proves to into debate.  Milton did such an excellent job with this epic and giving the reader so much to think about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Satan&#8217;s character is easy to sympathize with, especially when he sees paradise for the first time and feels so sad.  His character also gives the reader the &#8220;fighter&#8221; character, the one who goes against the leader (God), which shows the reader that one must stop to question.  </p>
<p>I think your last paragraph is interesting, especially how Milton promotes humans not being swayed, but answer to their conscience.  Moreso than not, must of the last paragraph describes Satan&#8217;s character (at least to me).    </p>
<p>The whole correuption topic is a concept that proves to into debate.  Milton did such an excellent job with this epic and giving the reader so much to think about.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The counsel in Paradise Lost by micele</title>
		<link>http://rkdrury.english-nku.org/ENG685/archives/95#comment-256</link>
		<dc:creator>micele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the whole concept of the fallen angels is interesting.  I see your point about the counsels connection to democracy.  There are many points in Paradise Lost that connections with democracy.

In your last paragraph you mention how the group has an appeared leader, but the popular vote of all the fall angels is taken into account.  I thought the fallen angels knew that God held their decisions in his hands, especially because the fallen angels knew that if it were not for God they would not have been released from the lake.

Overall, this is an interesting topic with does have a connection to modern day democracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the whole concept of the fallen angels is interesting.  I see your point about the counsels connection to democracy.  There are many points in Paradise Lost that connections with democracy.</p>
<p>In your last paragraph you mention how the group has an appeared leader, but the popular vote of all the fall angels is taken into account.  I thought the fallen angels knew that God held their decisions in his hands, especially because the fallen angels knew that if it were not for God they would not have been released from the lake.</p>
<p>Overall, this is an interesting topic with does have a connection to modern day democracy.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Loss of Milton&#8217;s Paradise by myria</title>
		<link>http://rkdrury.english-nku.org/ENG685/archives/92#comment-255</link>
		<dc:creator>myria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 22:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julie,

I liked the parallel you give between Milton's life and his epic.  They both have so much in common, "life struggles, problems, despair, hopes, passions, and optimism for humankind."  The characters are symbols of people in his life, both religious and political.  I wonder if his epic had been written 50 years later if it would have been received differently?

Milton, I read, came from a religious family who held great faith and work within the church.  I believe he felt it necessary to write Paradise Lost to show the human race what God had in mind for us and the paths that you should follow to get there.  His intentions were good and many did read the epic but whether many followed the example he set for them still remains to be debated.

Great Post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie,</p>
<p>I liked the parallel you give between Milton&#8217;s life and his epic.  They both have so much in common, &#8220;life struggles, problems, despair, hopes, passions, and optimism for humankind.&#8221;  The characters are symbols of people in his life, both religious and political.  I wonder if his epic had been written 50 years later if it would have been received differently?</p>
<p>Milton, I read, came from a religious family who held great faith and work within the church.  I believe he felt it necessary to write Paradise Lost to show the human race what God had in mind for us and the paths that you should follow to get there.  His intentions were good and many did read the epic but whether many followed the example he set for them still remains to be debated.</p>
<p>Great Post!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Milton&#8217;s Conception of Satan by myria</title>
		<link>http://rkdrury.english-nku.org/ENG685/archives/93#comment-254</link>
		<dc:creator>myria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 21:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ross,

  You are right when you say, "Satan's falsehoods prove seductive, both for the angels and for the reader, who may sympathize with him."  I did just that when I first started reading this epic.  Satan feels betrayed and lost by someone he trusted but it doesn't take him long to realign himself into a powerful position, the ruler of hell.  As you noted in your blog, he does sound like a dictator or king when Milton describes him.

I also enjoyed the parallel you describe between Miton's epic and his life.  It helps to understand why he makes some of the connections that he does.

Very enlightening!  Great Post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ross,</p>
<p>  You are right when you say, &#8220;Satan&#8217;s falsehoods prove seductive, both for the angels and for the reader, who may sympathize with him.&#8221;  I did just that when I first started reading this epic.  Satan feels betrayed and lost by someone he trusted but it doesn&#8217;t take him long to realign himself into a powerful position, the ruler of hell.  As you noted in your blog, he does sound like a dictator or king when Milton describes him.</p>
<p>I also enjoyed the parallel you describe between Miton&#8217;s epic and his life.  It helps to understand why he makes some of the connections that he does.</p>
<p>Very enlightening!  Great Post!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hair and Sexuality in Paradise Lost by myria</title>
		<link>http://rkdrury.english-nku.org/ENG685/archives/91#comment-253</link>
		<dc:creator>myria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 20:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amber,
  I had not considered the symbolism in Adam and Eve's hair.  I also found it interesting the reference you made to the Bible about the length of a man's hair.  

  I found the association between sexuality and hair very clever and is a good way to describe her while foreshadowing of things to come.  Milton does imply her to be the lesser equal of the two by describing her as "yielded with coy submission, modest pride, and sweet, reluctant, amorous delay."  Because she is the weaker of the two she will be the one to succumb to submission when tempted by Satan.

Great post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amber,<br />
  I had not considered the symbolism in Adam and Eve&#8217;s hair.  I also found it interesting the reference you made to the Bible about the length of a man&#8217;s hair.  </p>
<p>  I found the association between sexuality and hair very clever and is a good way to describe her while foreshadowing of things to come.  Milton does imply her to be the lesser equal of the two by describing her as &#8220;yielded with coy submission, modest pride, and sweet, reluctant, amorous delay.&#8221;  Because she is the weaker of the two she will be the one to succumb to submission when tempted by Satan.</p>
<p>Great post!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hair and Sexuality in Paradise Lost by C. Ross Hughes</title>
		<link>http://rkdrury.english-nku.org/ENG685/archives/91#comment-252</link>
		<dc:creator>C. Ross Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, it's good to know that I don't have an ungodly length of hair.  I was really worried about that.  But sarcasm aside, I found the points that you made to be excellent.  

Two lines describing Eve's hair I found particularly striking: "Disheveled, but in wanton ringlets waved/ As the vine curls her tendrils..." Milton compares her to vegetation, which has deep symbolism.  In this, Eve is a kind of earth-mother, who brings fertility.  And yet, there is a negative aspect to this comparison:  she also could become wantonly sexual, spreading her tendrils, consuming the world with lust. Of course, Milton states that she is to be subjegated to Adam, but there is the lingering sense that she has a power over him which has not yet been tapped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, it&#8217;s good to know that I don&#8217;t have an ungodly length of hair.  I was really worried about that.  But sarcasm aside, I found the points that you made to be excellent.  </p>
<p>Two lines describing Eve&#8217;s hair I found particularly striking: &#8220;Disheveled, but in wanton ringlets waved/ As the vine curls her tendrils&#8230;&#8221; Milton compares her to vegetation, which has deep symbolism.  In this, Eve is a kind of earth-mother, who brings fertility.  And yet, there is a negative aspect to this comparison:  she also could become wantonly sexual, spreading her tendrils, consuming the world with lust. Of course, Milton states that she is to be subjegated to Adam, but there is the lingering sense that she has a power over him which has not yet been tapped.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Milton&#8217;s Influentials by jessica</title>
		<link>http://rkdrury.english-nku.org/ENG685/archives/88#comment-251</link>
		<dc:creator>jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your connection of Satan to Cromwell I found very interesting. I think you did a great job of looking at characteristics of both and connecting the situations they went through. Connecting the leaders of the time with the leaders in the work makes Paradise Lost almost a different work, not simply a re-telling of the creation story but an actual political work with religious undertones, maybe?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your connection of Satan to Cromwell I found very interesting. I think you did a great job of looking at characteristics of both and connecting the situations they went through. Connecting the leaders of the time with the leaders in the work makes Paradise Lost almost a different work, not simply a re-telling of the creation story but an actual political work with religious undertones, maybe?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Milton&#8217;s Paradise Lost by jessica</title>
		<link>http://rkdrury.english-nku.org/ENG685/archives/89#comment-250</link>
		<dc:creator>jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, we are back to what is the definition of a hero? And is that definition the same definition as a literary hero? I think you could argue either Satan or Christ is the hero of the epic. You did a good job of arguing that Christ was. I was suprised at how much Milton seemed to sensationalize the character of Satan. Christ's decision to give his life is heroic, as you noted, and he does seem to be a hero in this sense. I find it hard to take Christian beliefs out and try to examine the text just as Milton's work. Good job!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, we are back to what is the definition of a hero? And is that definition the same definition as a literary hero? I think you could argue either Satan or Christ is the hero of the epic. You did a good job of arguing that Christ was. I was suprised at how much Milton seemed to sensationalize the character of Satan. Christ&#8217;s decision to give his life is heroic, as you noted, and he does seem to be a hero in this sense. I find it hard to take Christian beliefs out and try to examine the text just as Milton&#8217;s work. Good job!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Just What IS Milton Up To In Paradise Lost? by jessica</title>
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		<dc:creator>jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Ross...I saw no evidence that Milton was condemming the beheading. However I appreciated reading some of the things going on as Milton wrote Paradise Lost. I feel that Milton was focusing on relaying the story of the fall of man with the attention and time he spends sensationalizing the character of Satan instead of God. The work forces humans, like you said, to realize that God gave man free will even though he knew the human race would betray him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Ross&#8230;I saw no evidence that Milton was condemming the beheading. However I appreciated reading some of the things going on as Milton wrote Paradise Lost. I feel that Milton was focusing on relaying the story of the fall of man with the attention and time he spends sensationalizing the character of Satan instead of God. The work forces humans, like you said, to realize that God gave man free will even though he knew the human race would betray him.</p>
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